It is just about Jesus. True enough. The problem is that those words could come from the mouth of St. Paul (an Apostle of the true Christ) or Simon Magus (one of the prime founders of Gnosticism) with absolutely different and absolutely eternally diametrically opposed meanings. Correct doctrine and prayer governed thereby in its form and a life lived according to correct doctrine are of primary importance in any real confession of Jesus Christ as Lord and therefore Saviour.
The proponents of paganism and false ecumenism all whine that we “just don’t understand” – the point is we do understand. They lie like the devil. What else would you expect?
The diabolically absurd idea of ecumenism began in the late 6th (500’s) A.D. century in the Eastern Church. Later, the Pope got jealous and decided he wanted it for himself. In all cases it is the example of men bowing before the temptation of Satan. The devil even tried to tempt Jesus Christ with this but Jesus totally rejected this temptation of the devil – see Gospel of St. Luke Chapter 4. It was in the East as well that the pagan worship of images was promoted throughout the centuries, while in the West the use of images to teach but not to worship them was the tradition. It was also in the East that the ecumenical idea of a universal bishop was thought up.
TO EUSEBIUS OF THESSALONICA.
Be it known then to your Fraternity that John, formerly bishop of the city of Constantinople, against God, against the peace of the Church, to the contempt and injury of all priests, exceeded the bounds of modesty and of his own measure, and unlawfully usurped in synod the proud and pestiferous title of ecumenical, that is to say, universal. When our predecessor Pelagius of blessed memory became aware of this, he annulled by a fully valid censure all the proceedings of that same synod,
TO CYRIACUS, PATRIARCH OF CONSTANTINOPLE.
Gregory to Cyriacus, &c.
Observing diligently, most dear brother, how great is the virtue of peace from the Lord's voice, which says, My peace I give unto you (John. xiv. 27), it becomes us so to abide in the love thereof as in no wise to give place to discord. But, since we cannot otherwise live in its root except by retaining in mind and in deed the humility which the very author of peace has taught, we entreat you with befitting charity, that, treading down with the foot of your heart the profane elation which is always hostile to souls, you make haste to remove from the midst of the Church the offence of a perverse and proud title (ecumenical [universal] Bishop – see above EPISTLE LXVIII), lest you should possibly be found divided from the society of our peace. But let there be in us one spirit, one mind, one charity, one bond in Christ, who has willed us to be his members. For let your Holiness consider how hard it is, how indecent, how cruel, how alien from the aim of a priest, not to have that peace which you preach to others, and so abstain from offending your brethren out of pride. But study this rather, how you may prostrate with the sword of humility the author of vain and profitless elation, to the end that in such a victory the grace of the Holy Spirit may claim you as a habitation for Himself, so that what is written may be plainly fulfilled in you; the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are (2 Cor. vi.
We commend to you in all things the bearer of these presents, our most beloved common son, the deacon Boniface, that in whatsoever may be needful he may find, as is becoming, the succour of your Holiness.
4) THEISTIC UNIVERSAL EVOLUTION PERPETRATED BY KAROL WOJTYLA OCT 1962 AND FORWARD (CONDEMNED BY ALL DOCTRINES OF THE CHURCH AND PROCLAMATIONS IN PARTICULAR BY THE DOCTRINES OF PIUS THE X AND PIUS THE XII AGAINST MODERNISM AND PANTHEISM AND MONISM)
EVERY SPIRIT INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE THEREOF LET BE ACCURSED
May all the faithful Christians, Bishops, Patriarchs and Popes of the last 2000 years with all the elect angels and saints of the True Living God pray for and with us that God deliver us from Modernism and false Ecumenism. With God we say to Modernism and false Ecumenism: “Anathema Sit”.
So, too, when they treat of philosophy, history, and criticism, acting on the principle that science in no way depends upon faith, they feel no especial horror in treading in the footsteps of Luther and are wont to display a manifold contempt for Catholic doctrines, for the Holy Fathers, for the Ecumenical Councils, for the ecclesiastical magisterium; and should they be taken to task for this, they complain that they are being deprived of their liberty. Lastly, maintaining the theory that faith must be subject to science, they continuously and openly rebuke the Church on the ground that she resolutely refuses to submit and accommodate her dogmas to the opinions of philosophy; while they, on their side, having for this purpose blotted out the old theology, endeavor to introduce a new theology which shall support the aberrations of philosophers.
The ecumenists who claim that the false gods of Buddhism and Hinduism and non-Trinitarian Islam etc. are to be tolerated. False clerical “priests” who actually combine their superficial confession in Christ with pagan religions and/or who claim that they can control God, that is, cause Him to bind and loose sins and therefore claim they can forgive men’s sins are liars that actually bind men in sin. What they are practicing is theurgy (literally from the Greek theos ergon: make God work). Theurgy is a form of magic related to the same obsession – possession of the pagans and Gnostics mentioned above. For example the Assyrian ashipu or mashi mashi, the witchdoctor, would use charms and spells to supposedly cause demons to grant good health and forgive sins etc. all as intercessors with the pagan high god; the Chaldaeans, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Persians, Indians and Chinese pagans etc. all had/have their versions of this (modern Hindus and Buddhists and false Islamist "Mohammedans" etc.). The Gnostics got their practice of this from the pagans and the Naaseni. As St. Irenaeus tells us in the passage of his quoted below is that, in fact, such men cause obsession – possession of others and absolutely, since they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, as Christ warned us not to do, not only are they not forgiving anyone their sins, but are binding themselves and those who rely on them in sin and damnation, and at the same time, all sorts of disease and mental problems and paranoia and evil spirits. The false ecumenical movement of many so-called Christian churches with pagan religions, the Catholic charismatic movement and the Marian apparitions, and all the so-called healing and conversion/salvation and altar–call supposed Christian ministeries on TBN, are equally guilty of this. The biblical language that Christ uses in “binding and loosing” means that only He forgives sin and sets His requirements for baptism for the Apostles and all Christians to observe.
False clerical “priests” who actually combine their superficial confession in Christ with pagan religions and/or who claim that they can control God, that is, cause Him to bind and loose sins and therefore claim they can forgive men’s sins are liars that actually bind men in sin. What they are practicing is theurgy (literally from the Greek theos ergon: make God work). Theurgy is a form of magic related to the same obsession – possession of the pagans and Gnostics mentioned above. For example the Assyrian ashipu or mashi mashi, the witchdoctor, would use charms and spells to supposedly cause demons to grant good health and forgive sins etc. all as intercessors with the pagan high god; the Chaldaeans, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Persians, Indians and Chinese pagans etc. all had/have their versions of this (modern Hindus and Buddhists and magic practicing "Mohammedans" etc.). The Gnostics got their practice of this from the pagans and the Naaseni. As St. Irenaeus tells us in the passage of his quoted below is that, in fact, such men cause obsession – possession of others and absolutely, since they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit, as Christ warned us not to do, not only are they not forgiving anyone their sins, but are binding themselves and those who rely on them in sin and damnation, and at the same time, all sorts of disease and mental problems and paranoia and evil spirits. The false ecumenical movement of many so-called Christian churches with pagan religions, the Catholic charismatic movement and the Marian apparitions, and all the so-called healing and conversion/salvation and altar–call supposed Christian ministeries on TBN, are equally guilty of this. The biblical language that Christ uses in “binding and loosing” means that only He forgives sin and sets His requirements for baptism for the Apostles and all Christians to observe.
O HOLY SON OF GOD ONE HAVING THE EYES OF YOU AS A FLAME OF FIRE AND THE FEET OF YOU LIKE BURNISHED BRONZE, YOU WHO ARE THE I AM, THE ONE SEARCHING MINDS AND HEARTS, WHO WILL GIVE TO EACH ONE ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS, YOU HAVE GRACIOUSLY SAID: ‘BUT TO THE ONES IN CORRUPTED CHURCHES AS MANY AS DO NOT HOLD THE TEACHING AND DO NOT KNOW THE DEPTHS OF SATAN (FALSE ECUMENISM – SYNCRETISM WITH PAGANISM -- see for an example of Pagan Cultism that is very dangerous, The Truth About Soka Gakkai and Daisaku Ikeda - here and see here) I WILL NOT PUT ANY OTHER BURDEN BUT THAT WHICH YOU HAVE (FAITH IN YOU CHRIST AND CHARITY), HOLD FAST TILL I COME. AND TO HIM WHO OVERCOMES, AND WHO KEEPS MY WORKS UNTO THE END, I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS. AND HE SHALL RULE THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON, AND LIKE THE POTTER'S VESSEL THEY SHALL BE DASHED TO PIECES, AS I ALSO HAVE RECEIVED FROM MY FATHER; AND I WILL GIVE HIM THE MORNING STAR. HE WHO HAS AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE CHURCHES. JESUS CHRIST OUR ONLY LORD AND SAVIOUR, THE HOLY ONE, THE TRUE ONE, WITH THE ONES WHO HAVE KEPT THE WORD OF YOUR PATIENCE AND HOLD FAST WHAT THEY HAVE, WITH THOSE WHO HOLD FAST AND OVERCOME AND KEEP YOUR WORKS TO THE END, WRITE THE NAME OF YOU JESUS CHRIST OUR GOD UPON US BLESS US AND DELIVER US FROM ALL APOSTASY AND ALL CURSES THEREON UNCEASINGLY AND NOW AND ALWAYS AND UNTO THE ENDLESS AGES OF AGES TO COME.
The title of Ecumenical Bishop was assumed by the Patriarch of Constantinople, John the Faster, at a synod held in 588. Gregory I the Patriarch of Rome (Pope) protested calling it a pestiferous title and saying that it was a forerunner of the Antichrist, and a long controversy followed, the question was still at issue when Gregory died in 604 A.D. Gregory had indeed declared that there were three Sees of St. Peter, namely Antioch, Rome and Alexandria (the last via the office of St. Mark). Gregory after the fashion of his time addressed all Bishops as Pope (Father). However, this was extremely questionable as to it’s advisability, since St. Irenaeus had in 180 A.D. shown what the Church had known all along, that the arch heretic and foe of the Church, Simon Magus in the first century had wanted to be regarded as Father in direct violation of Our Only Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ’s commandment to call no one on earth Father for only one in heaven is your Father. When St. Paul said that he had been like a father in the faith to St. Timothy he never said “and so all of you CALL me Father”. St. Paul’s statement is simply that he had taught St. Timothy correctly. After the Gnostics had for a couple of centuries emulated Simon Magus (Simon the Magician) in insisting to be called Father in imitation of the pagans, the early bishops of the Church decided that they should be called this. In the fourth century A.D. a conflation of the two separate terms of presbyter and hierus was made and, in imitation of the pagans again, Christian “priests” came into being. The Bishops were called Pope and those in important centers Patriarch, both of which mean Father. The inevitable result was for the Patriarchs to argue (as did the Apostles, see Mark 9:33-41) as to who was the greatest amongst themselves. In all of this, the Patriarchs, very definitely including Pope St. Gregory the Great (recognized, ironically, by the east as a saint), did all they could to curry favor with the emperor.
This idiocy on the part of BOTH east and west continued until Pius IX (from 1846 – 1878 reigned in Rome, but not in Heaven where God alone Reigns, and in fact it is truly God alone in Christ alone Who is the Blessed and Only Sovereign King of kings and Lord of lords; which doesn’t give earthly kings any divine rights). Pius IX attempted to have himself declared infallible at the First Vatican Council, which was recessed and never reopened; therefore no declaration was ever made officially that the Pope is infallible.
Pius IX had been at this for quite some time before the first Vatican Council. The following is the objection of the east.
Encyclical of the Eastern Patriarchs, 1848
A Reply to the Epistle of Pope Pius IX, "to the Easterns"
To All the Bishops Everywhere, Beloved in the Holy Ghost, Our Venerable, Most Dear Brethren; and to their Most Pious Clergy; and to All the Genuine Orthodox Sons of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church: Brotherly Salutation in the Holy Spirit, and Every Good From God, and Salvation.
The holy, evangelical and divine Gospel of Salvation should be set forth by all in its original simplicity, and should evermore be believed in its unadulterated purity, even the same as it was revealed to His holy Apostles by our Savior, who for this very cause, descending from the bosom of God the Father, made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant (Phil. ii. 7); even the same, also, as those Apostles, who were ear and eye witnesses, sounded it forth, like clear-toned trumpets, to all that are under the sun (for their sound is gone out into all lands, and their words into the ends of the world); and, last of all, the very same as the many great and glorious Fathers of the Catholic Church in all parts of the earth, who heard those Apostolic voices, both by their synodical and their individual teachings handed it down to all everywhere, and even unto us. But the Prince of Evil, that spiritual enemy of man's salvation, as formerly in Eden, craftily assuming the pretext of profitable counsel, he made man to become a transgressor of the divinely-spoken command. so in the spiritual Eden, the Church of God, he has from time to time beguiled many; and, mixing the deleterious drugs of heresy with the clear streams of orthodox doctrine, gives of the potion to drink to many of the innocent who live unguardedly, not giving earnest heed to the things they have heard (Heb. ii. 10), and to what they have been told by their fathers (Deut. xxxii. 7), in accordance with the Gospel and in agreement with the ancient Doctors; and who, imagining that the preached and written Word of the LORD and the perpetual witness of His Church are not sufficient for their souls' salvation, impiously seek out novelties, as we change the fashion of our garments, embracing a counterfeit of the evangelical doctrine.
2. Hence have arisen manifold and monstrous heresies, which the Catholic Church, even from her infancy, taking unto her the whole armor of God, and assuming the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God (Eph. vi. 13-17,) has been compelled to combat. She has triumphed over all unto this day, and she will triumph for ever, being manifested as mightier and more illustrious after each struggle.
3. Of these heresies, some already have entirely failed, some are in decay, some have wasted away, some yet flourish in a greater or less degree vigorous until the time of their return to the Faith, while others are reproduced to run their course from their birth to their destruction. For being the miserable cogitations and devices of miserable men, both one and the other, struck with the thunderbolt of the anathema of the seven Ecumenical Councils, shall vanish away, though they may last a thousand years; for the orthodoxy of the Catholic and Apostolic Church, by the living Word of God, alone endures for ever, according to the infallible promise of the LORD: the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Matt. xviii. 18). 5. The new doctrine, that "the Holy Ghost proceedeth from the Father and the Son," is contrary to the memorable declaration of our LORD, emphatically made respecting it: which proceedeth from the Father (John xv. 26), and contrary to the universal Confession of the Catholic Church as witnessed by the seven Ecumenical Councils, uttering "which proceedeth from the Father." (Symbol of Faith).
i. This novel opinion destroys the oneness from the One cause, and the diverse origin of the Persons of the Blessed Trinity, both of which are witnessed to in the Gospel.
ii. Even into the divine Hypostases or Persons of the Trinity, of equal power and equally to be adored, it introduces diverse and unequal relations, with a confusion or commingling of them.
iii. It reproaches as imperfect, dark, and difficult to be understood, the previous Confession of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
v. It reproaches the Fathers of the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh Ecumenical Councils, which had published over the world a divine Creed, perfect and complete, and interdicted under dread anathemas and penalties not removed, all addition, or diminution, or alteration, or variation in the smallest particular of it, by themselves or any whomsoever. Yet was this quickly to be corrected and augmented, and consequently the whole theological doctrine of the Catholic Fathers was to be subjected to change, as if, forsooth, a new property even in regard to the three Persons of the Blessed Trinity had been revealed.
x. It has been condemned by many Holy Councils of the four Patriarchs of the East.
xi. It was subjected to anathema, as a novelty and augmentation of the Creed, by the eighth Ecumenical Council, congregated at Constantinople for the pacification of the Eastern and Western Churches.
Wherefore the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, following in the steps of the holy Fathers, both Eastern and Western, proclaimed of old to our progenitors and again teaches today synodically, that the said novel doctrine of the Holy Ghost proceeding from the Father and the Son is essentially heresy, and its maintainers, whoever they be, are heretics, according to the sentence of Pope St. Damasus, and that the congregations of such are also heretical, and that all spiritual communion in worship of the orthodox sons of the Catholic Church with such is unlawful. Such is the force of the seventh Canon of the third Ecumenical Council.
and many and sundry references to ecumenical ad nauseam
BARTHOLOMEW ARCHBISHOP OF CONSTANTINOPLE,
NEW ROME AND ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH
Messages: Annual encyclical on the environment each September 1st, designated by the Ecumenical Patriarchate and by the entire Orthodox Church as a day of prayer for the protection of creation (1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002); The European Parliament at its plenary session on April 19, 1994; VI. General Assembly of the World Conference on Religion and Peace (WCRP) in Riva del Garda, Italy (1994); U.N.E.S.C.O. General Assembly (1995); Turkish-Greek Business Council and the Young Businessmen’s Association (1997); The United States Congress upon being awarded the Congressional Gold Medal (1997); The Santa Barbara Environmental Conference “Caring for God’s Creation” (1997); Interfaith Dialogue Assembly (1998); Forum 2000 gathering in Prague (1999);Address on Prayer for Peace in Novi Sad (1999); The Greek and the polish Parliaments (1999 and 2000, respectively); “Sacred Gifts to a Living Planet” Kathmandu, Nepal, (2000); The United Nations World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia, and Related Intolerance, Durban, South Africa (2001); Official Visit to Iran “The Contribution of Religion to the Establishment of Peace in the Contemporary World” (2002), “Witness to Peace” (Assisi 2002), and many others.
From the Book of the End
Was it not about this that Bishop Theophanes the Recluse prophesied more than eighty years ago in his interpretation of the Second Epistle to the Thessalonians, when he said: ‘Although the name of Christianity will be heard everywhere, and churches and church rites will be seen everywhere, all this will be only appearance, while within will be true apostasy (pp. 491-492). Christ Himself in His Sermon on the Mount clearly said that nobody can serve two masters (Matthew 6.24); it is impossible simultaneously to serve God and Mammon, that is, this world lying in evil; it is impossible at one and the same time to please Christ and Beliar, that is, the servants of the coming Antichrist, in the person of the clear or secret God-fighting authorities (II Corinthians 6.15).”
See the Following excerpts from The Book Of The End:
THE BOOK OF THE END
“The treading underfoot of the Holy City, Jerusalem, or the Ecumenical Church, for the course of forty-two months signifies that at the time of the coming of the Antichrist the faithful will be persecuted for the course of three and a half years.
Rev. P. Huchede
Professor of Theology at the Grand Seminary of Laval, France
Translated from the French by J.D.B.
And none of the wicked shall understand, but the learned shall understand.
(Dan. 12 :10)
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The above book concerning the Apocalypse, chapter 13; etc. tells us of the future or coming event of the Antichrist, his destruction and the recreation of the universe by God in the future. For instance Huchede tells us, in part:
We are therefore justified in asserting that Antichrist has been prefigured by the persecutions of the Church, by all the enemies of Jesus Christ, whatever may have been the form under which they have existed. Cruel persecutors such as the Caesars represent his future cruelty towards those who will remain faithful to God. Hypocritical persecutors such as Julian the Apostate are typical of his deception and consummate hypocrisy. Heresy and schism, but above all the incredulity and impiety of our time, are the prelude to the great Apostasy into which he will cause many to fall. Finally, those who give themselves up to their passions and who drink from the pool of iniquity form themselves to his image and likeness, which explains the words of St. Paul when he said, "For the mystery of iniquity already worketh." (2 Thes. 2:7).’
‘…three different persons: "And I saw from the mouth of the dragon, and from the mouth of the beast, and from the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs." (Apoc. 16:13). The dragon, the beast, and the false prophet signify Satan, Antichrist, and the principal apostle of Antichrist. These three different beings command all the other demons. In the work of our redemption, the three divine persons of the adorable Trinity manifested themselves. The Son adores the Father; the Holy Ghost gives glory to the Son. And we see that in the mystery of iniquity Antichrist adores Satan and the false prophet glorifies Antichrist. Hence we have every reason to show that this false prophet will be an individual person and not a collective term to designate the universality of preachers engaged in the service of Antichrist. We can even assert that he will not be a king, nor a general of an army, but a clever apostate, fallen from the episcopal dignity. From being an apostle of the Gospel he will become the first preacher of the false messiah. These conjectures are not devoid of much plausibility. (Acosta, Book 2, Ch. 16). Antichrist will communicate his power of working miracles to others, who will go into different countries and cities to gain new proselytes by all the human and diabolical means in their power. (Acosta, 2, 16). It is thus that the words of Our Lord will be fulfilled. "For there shall rise up false Christs and false prophets, and they shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. Take ye heed, therefore. Behold I have foretold you all things." (Mk 13:22 23). "And then if any man shall say to you: Lo, here is Christ; lo, he is here, do not believe. . . he is in the desert, go ye not out." (Mat. 24:23-26). Benighted apostles who will indeed turn away from truth! (2 Tim. 4:4). They blaspheme the majesty of God and despise all true authority. "Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their confusion, wandering stars to whom the storm of darkness is reserved forever." (Jude 1:13). "Fountains without water and clouds tossed with whirlwinds, to whom the
midst of darkness is reserved." ( Pet:. 2:17).’
Note in the above that the false irenic, the so-called ‘ecumenical church’ movement, is the seat of the false prophet.
At the recreation of God’s creation after Satan, the Antichrist, the false prophet, all who congregate around them, especially the so-called ‘ecumenical church’ movement and all the wicked spirits and wicked men are cast into hell forever, Huchede also tells us:
3 And said: amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
THIS IS THE KEY VERSE
Just like a small child who utterly trusts his Father and does without question what his Father says, at all times, obeying Him without any notice of or entanglement in the morass of those who stand in the way attempting to block his holding the Father's hand (Christ at the right hand of the Father and Who came as the Christ Child for our salvation), unentangled with the Pharisee, Sadducee, Scribe, Lawyer, Hypocrite (modern day: ecumenist, priest, theologian, minister, evangelical moneymaking weacher preacher).
Just like a small child who forgives without holding back or seeking any approval of men (and certainly not by any supposed mediation thereof) those who have trespassed against him.
Just like a small child who naturally without thinking shows real involved (for free, not charging any money, but giving to those in need) compassion.
Just like a small child who utterly trusts the Father’s pity and mercy and shows the same to all others.